Music: RE: [u2tour] GA procedure, my experience in Pittsburgh

I agree Joanne.. I have gotten there at 1AM then to have people show up at 6am after a good nights sleep.. and go to the front of the line. disgusting!! I wish the band could see this. They would know who all these people are since they are the SAME ones in front everytime.. jami

To: u2tour@yahoogroups.com
From: threechords@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:52:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [u2tour] GA procedure, my experience in Pittsburgh

Joanne you rock! I am with you.

Next tour we need an anti-elite group to show up at venue show time and see what
number we physically are in line when we arrive and leave it at that. When you
stand up to a bully it will stand down until next time.

I am going to save Kate's and your email if you don't mind.

For full disclosure, while I don't like the shifts being taken and the days
early "line" creation, I know I might be guilty of the same thing at 602 in line
in Pitt. We got in line, with our 3 boys, and then a short time later my wife
went back to the hotel to meet the babysitter. So I had a few hours where she
was not there so maybe I am as guilty as them? Maybe at 600 it doesn't matter
as much as 1-150? Is that as bad as the early "line" makers? Let me know as I
want to be fair to everyone so we know how to manage this going forward. This
was the first time we did that.

On the bright side in Pittsburgh, I think the temperature and the shade the line
had helped the GA be so energenic and awesome.

steve

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From: Joanne Gonzales <jjesgonzo@cox.net>
To: u2tour@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 29, 2011 10:26:14 AM
Subject: Re: [u2tour] GA procedure, my experience in Pittsburgh

It's so nice to finally see everyone discussing the line organizers. They're the
same people every time who DO use intimidation and bullying when they don't get
what they want. They act as if they have an authority that they DON'T actually
possess. We all need to start standing up to them and not putting up with their
antics. If they weren't bullies I wouldn't have a problem with them. But they
are bullies and they create systems that aren't plausible for people who work,
have kids and can't spend 36 in front of an arena to see a band that they love
just as much as them. Telling people that they have to "check in" the night
before a concert to get their number is outrageous. Especially when you take the
time to just realize that it's just some random U2 fan who created that "rule"
NOT the venue and NOT U2. The rest of us really need to question their authority
more frequently and not allow them to set the rules across the country.

One more note, U2 would be disgusted with them if they saw how they acted with
other fans in the line. The kindness towards their fellow man that U2 is all
about is NOT what those people show to those around them. They act entitled,
arrogant and elitist...everything that U2 despises.
Joanne
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From: Ralph Lusby <claytonmills49@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:03:45
To: <u2tour@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [u2tour] GA procedure, my experience in Pittsburgh

"Elite" is way too kind of a term! Line Nazis are what we've called them.

As fans we've been lucky that U2 has kept their floor tickets as GA for the
past three tours (and thereby keeping those prices down). It's discouraging
to see that the same shenanigans have been going on since 2001. If you'll
recall, a group of fans at the June 2001 Boston shows were so upset that the
production crew tried to mix up the fans at the front for the DVD recording
that they staged a sit-in protest in the back of the heart that is plainly
visible on the Elevation 2001: Live from Boston film. Later that Fall in
Philadelphia my buddy and I got to the line early and got numbered, never
left the line and found out later that the line-keepers gave our numbers to
some of their friends. We stuck to our guns and ignored them and got our
spot on the rail in front of Adam.

Like any group I'm sure there are lots of early arrivers/line organizers
with nothing but the best intentions who are spending their time trying to
help keep the line experience a positive one. Unfortunately there are
plenty of bad eggs in the bunch that have a history of abusing the system to
the benefit of their friends. Venue-run lines seem to be the only fair
alternative.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Peter O'Malley <PeterOmalleyIV@gmail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> If they go back into arenas, I hope they scan tickets again to keep it
> fairly random up front... "elite U2 society" is a perfect way of putting
> it..
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Nick Walker <walkervox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > We feel your pain. We fought it, but finally had to just let it go. It
> > sucks. Sorry.
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2011 7:29 PM, "blessedpoverty" <contramundo@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > OK, the Pittsburgh show was AWESOME. But the GA line "system" was a
> major
> > downer. We got there at 4am, ready to stay until the show. There were
> about
> > 20 people there, so we thought we were in good shape. The list holder
> gets
> > our names down and it turns out I'm number 250-something! So where are
> the
> > other 230 people ahead of me?! In bed, at breakfast, anywhere but waiting
> > in
> > line! What happened to coming to the GA line and staying to hold your
> > place?
> > Where do you get the secret information to "check in" on the list and
> then
> > take off? Of course, there's nothing to do about it. No offense to anyone
> > who actually waited in person, and I would have been happy to be in the
> > 200s
> > if 200 people were actually there, but I'm pretty tired of the elite U2
> > society using unfair tactics to crowd the front of the pit and exclude
> > those
> > of us who are out of the social loop but putting in the effort fairly to
> > get
> > close to our favorite band. When Bono said "I see so many familiar faces"
> I
> > just sort of cringed--from the back of the circle.
> > >
> > > I won't even bother waiting in line in Moncton. Now I know there's
> > probably already a list up to the hundreds consisting of people who
> aren't
> > even in New Brunswick yet. Maybe I'll start using the tactics of the
> drunks
> > who come in late and push their way to the front. Is that really any
> > different than putting your name on a list the night before the show and
> > going back to bed?
> > >
> > > Kate in NC
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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