Music: Re: [u2tour] *U2 Set List: Frankfurt, Germany, August 10, 2010

How could you say that U2 stopped writing great songs after Achtung Baby???? I will just list the ones that could take off live, but the other stuff after Achtung RULES!! What about Stay, The First Time,Discoteque, Staring at the sun,Gone,Please (!!!), Beautiful day,Stuck,Elevation, Walk On, Vertigo (that is so awesome Live), Sometimes....., City of Blinding Lights, Love and Peace, All Because of you, No Line, Magnificent, Moment of surrender, Unknown Caller, I'll go crazy, Boots...oh man....too many!!

Obviously this is all a matter of taste, but I have to disagree the 'disappointing output' statement. The critics would disagree as well. I truly feel that U2 is a band dedicated to creating amazing songs that have so much detail in them: every instrumental part is not an afterthought and I really appreciate that in U2; not many bands operate that way. Dave Matthews Band is another band like that, and Muse,.....but many bands just seem to insert the same old drum beats/base and guitar parts: i.e. interesting lyrics and melodies, but the music would not hold up on it's own: U2's music does hold up!! I saw Bruce Springsteen once recently, and EVERY song has the same boring accompaniment( the drum solo was a complete yawn), even though Bruce is great. Bruce's band cannot compete with U2 I think.

I agree that the new intro is too random, and anticlimactic( I have not witnessed it live--I live in Canada so i have to wait until next year): if they want to do a live musical intro it should be up to U2's anthemic standards...."Soon" did, but it was not live..but soooo beautiful!! I think the space boy is cute, and it fits with the stage design.......but yes, it does not match HMTMKMKM!!....Anyway, I don't think they are looking for a storyline, more sound and vision bites that are fun.

Keep in mind that this is just another opinion..............

Caroline

On 2010-08-11, at 4:42 PM, Mollison wrote:

> The band gave up worrying about what the fans want played a long time ago, sure before Vertigo Tour Bono wanted Where the streets have no name taken out of the setlist, take that out and the high point is gone from a U2 show.
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> they pretty much stopped writing great songs after Achtung Baby and the past 15 years they have produced the odd gem in an overall disappointing output, I've followed the band for 30 years and love the older songs, but I gave up expecting them to be played on a consistant basis years ago
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> My comments are not really about the set list. I am alright with most of the set list. Of course there are songs that I would like to see be switched out etc but c'est la vie.
> My comment/question is has anyone noticed that they seem to have forgotten how to make an entrance?... Zoo Tv, Popmart, Elevation, Vertigo... epic buildup to the opening track... 360 seems to be having trouble with an opening... I was pumped about something different happening in Europe and of course I'm excited about the new material but... it just seems anti climactic... Stingray intro with the house lights on only come to a complete halt then into Beautiful Day... I don't get it. Does anyone else feel the same?
> It's the same feeling with the Encore. I don't get the gurgling aliens and how that's fitting for the new encore opening with HMTMKMKM? So far I am just feeling disappointed with the visual side of the show... guys... you have a massive extendable screen... use it!
> Thoughts?
> Chris
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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:20:40 -0700
> Subject: Re: [u2tour] *U2 Set List: Frankfurt, Germany, August 10, 2010
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> I totally agree. Bring back Ultraviolet. For years, I begged for this song.
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> Finally it came back and somewhat to my surprise, it was also a fan favorite.
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> The songs that they've played a gazillion times sound like it. Keep it fresh, I
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> say. Sure, big crowds require a certain amount of hits. But Jheezh, sorry to
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> say, this was just so damned predictable. Rotate the old horses instead. I
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> mean it's not like the show sucks because Pride has been mercifully dropped.
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> Karl
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> Anybody else severely disappointed that they have dropped Ultraviolet from
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> the show? In my view, that may have beent the peak of the show the first time
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> around, and a welcomed surprise. After all this time, Mysterious Ways, Stuck in
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> a Moment (not sure if they are doing this again, but felt this way the first
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> time around on 360 and in view of the DVD) and Still Haven't Found don't
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> seem/sound as fresh - or at least are so much less exciting to hear in concert -
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> than some of the vast catalog they have. Songs from Pop, real old stuff that
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> they've moved away from again. It is odd to me; and i felt this way about the
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> DVD, too. Don't we have 3 tours worth of DVDs now of shows including Mysterious
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> Ways, Stuck in a Moment for instance? Their catalog is so vast, and so varied
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> -- sometimes i am confused by the lack of variation from tour to tour. Even
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> from one leg of 360 to the next --- they claimed they were trying songs they
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> hadn't done forever; and yet nothing new has really surfaced other than Hold Me,
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> Thrill Me (which, to me, isn't an upgrade from Ultraviolet).
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> As for the new songs --- i haven't been able to really listen to / hear them
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> yet; but as for most bands, it never seems the best route to play brand new
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> songs in advance of an album or release, b/c as much as the crowd may eventually
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> like the song once it has a chance to hear it, you can't sing along, you don't
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> know what to expect - you end up sitting on your hands a bit trying to make
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> sense of it all. And then the song is over. I am sure the songs are great,
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> and maybe will be on this upcoming album - at which point we will get our
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> listens in and come to love them. It's just that THEN would be the time you
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> want to hear them live. Not before. I would rather hear Gone, Please, In God's
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> Country - songs that inexplicably don't make their way around anymore, in favor
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> of s new/unfamiliar one, or one that, as much as it pains me to say b/c all of
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> their tunes are great, are a bit overdone at this point. Even casual fans will
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> have seen this songs multiple times now.
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> Ok -- that was my little rant. Just some thoughts.
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> Irie.
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> Subject: [u2tour] *U2 Set List: Frankfurt, Germany, August 10, 2010
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> U2 Set List: Frankfurt, Germany, August 10, 2010
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> Posted: August 10, 2010
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> By: m2 / @mattmcgee
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> The second show of the 2010 U2 360 tour is in the books. U2 played
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> tonight at Commerzbank Arena in Frankfurt, Germany. You can see the
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> full setlist and recap on U2tours.com.
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> http://www.u2tours.com/detail.src?ID=20100810
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> One of the new songs was dropped from tonight's show, while one
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> oldie returned. REM singer Michael Stipe was in attendance and Bono
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> sang him a little tribute during one part of the show. If you were
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> there, you can post a review and/or photos on U2tours.com. If you
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> weren't there but still want to to chat about the show, try this
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> thread in @U2's forum. Next concert: Hanover, Germany, on Thursday.
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> http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,12906.0/topicseen.html
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> m2
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