Which US bands are even doing it?
Ben
--- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@...> wrote:
>
> The symphonic stuff is fairly easy to come by here. The folk-metal
> genre is impossible.
> Â
> Clint
> Â
>
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:57:15 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@...> wrote:
> This stuff is not available in Israel at all but I picked up on
> Korpiklaani when they played here. I've heard of Finnetroll but don't
> have anything of theirs, just played a time or two on youtube. Some
> lighter stuff you might consider are Garmarna, Hedningarna and if want
> to get some real Abba type pop with a traditional folk base try Sarek.
> Also give Mari Boine a chance for something more traditional. I
> consider the godfather of these kinds of groups to be Steeleye Span,
> one of my favorite 70's groups.
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Those are all on his list, along with another dozen. I think it
> > was > something like Finnetroll (sp) that is a particular favourite
> > of his. > ÂÂ
> > > Sometimes tricky to find this music, mostly purchased over the net. > ÂÂ
> > > Clint
> > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:41:30 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > I've been collecting folk metal for some time and yes, Scandinavia
> > has > some of the best. I did come across a female death screamer,
> > name is > slipping my mind right now. Some good bands to check out
> > are Ancient > Bards, Korpiklaani, Faun, Leaves Eyes and Eluveitie.
> > Faun is less hard > rock than the others but also great. If you want,
> > I can send some links > tomorrow. > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not concerned over gender of vocalist, although I will
> > admit to > > > having a very low tolerance of that death
> > growl/howl/cookie monster > > > style of singing, and as far as I'm
> > aware that is exclusively male. > > > ÂÂÂ
> > > > > There are a pile of groups in these genres and with the benefit
> > of > > > youtube as a test bed I'm finding plenty. > ÂÂÂ
> > > > > A fellow I work with has a very deep library of these metal
> > styles, > > > and one of his favourites that I'm becoming interested
> > in is 'Folk > > > Metal'. Mostly from the Scandanavian Countries,
> > Norway in > > particular, > these groups create their own music, or
> > borrow heavily > > from traditional > music from the ages. Very
> > interesting stuff. > ÂÂÂ
> > > > > Clint
> > > > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:43:41 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > I like Nightwish more with Annette than I did with Tarja. I
> > think I > > > linked to Poet and the Pendulum here, both vocal and
> > instrumental. > > It's > entered my top few songs. Still have to get
> > their latest > > album. Epica > is another favorite, some serious
> > playing ability > > there. Lyriel is also > great. I tend more to the
> > female vocals, > > usually it softens the music a > bit. > > Ben
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh"
> > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I finally bit on the new Nightwish. Wasn't sure about the
> > line > > up > > > change. I shouldn't have been overly concerned.
> > Musically > > the core is > > > there, with the only change in
> > direction that I > > hear, is the vocal > > > stylings. The
> > olderÃÆ'‚ definately > > leaned towords opera, while
> > the > > new has > a more broadway sound? > > I very much like the
> > release. I did > > spring for > the double disc > > which has the
> > piece done only > > instrumentally on the 2nd > disc. > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > Apocalyptica is exceptional. The sounds that those guys
> > drag > > out of > > > those cello's is amazing. In concert they were
> > amazing. > > Since they > > > don't have the same following here as
> > Europe, the > > venue they were > > > playing in was small/intimate,
> > an converted > > movie theatre. We were > > > perhaps 10 ft away from
> > the stage. Close > > enough to hear bows on > > > strings. They went
> > from over the top > > heavy metal to a waltz in the > > > space of a
> > minute. Just a > > fantastic display of talent. > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > Therion is fast becoming a favourite. I like the opera
> > style > > > > setting > and composition styles. Strong on all counts.
> > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:23:35 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > I've been enjoying Apocolyptica for some years and love a
> > lot > > of > > > symphonic metal, one of my main genres these days.
> > Therion > > is good. > > I'm > really enjoying Nightwish and they've
> > been around > > for quite > > awhile now. > > Ben
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" > >
> > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm still finding lots to grab onto. Maybe my tastes
> > have > > > > changed, > > but > I'm finding a pile of these quirky
> > metal genres > > > > have some > > excellent > band and thankfully,
> > full albums that I > > can > > enjoy. > > > > This whole symphonic
> > metal thing has me > > interested, > > enough that I'm > > > choosing
> > my favourites now and > > not just hearing > > it as one big mess o'
> > > > > music. Currently > > enjoying a group called > > Therion,
> > nicely done with > > some > > > wonderfully composed and played > >
> > pieces. > > Another highlight > > > > for me is Apocalyptica. 3 guys
> > on > > cello and a > drummer. I've > > liked > > them for a few
> > years, but after > > seeing them in > > > concert this spring, > > I
> > have become quite the > > fan. Not just > > cover songs > from them,
> > the > > recent Symphony 7, as > > well as > > other studio releases
> > are > top notch > > and full of > > originals. > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:34:21 -0700 (PDT), howl dog wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I can find good stuff in almost every decade....
> > except > > this > > > > current > one, and maybe the last one. > >
> > Bands have > > really lost > > me, > > the last several years. > >
> > What can I say, > > if you cant play > > as well > > as poor old me,
> > why would I > be > > impressed?
> > > > > > > > > > -------------------------
> > > > > > > > > From: Ben
> > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the year
> > 1982 > > > > second > > round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > Maybe. We pass the golden period and have it in for >
> > > whatever > > > > replaced > it. There was good music out there in
> > the > > 90's which > > is > > what my matchup > show is about. Not
> > sure > > anyone here is still > > voting > > on that one though. >
> > And at the > > time there was always > > something to > > like. For
> > me it was > > > Suzanne Vega, REM, Georgia > > Satellites, > >
> > Smithereens and a > > bunch of other > including some of > > the pure
> > pop > > like Bangles > > and Belinda Carlisle. > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But if you talk to some person who was 16 in 1987,
> > I'm > > sure > > > > that's > > their high water mark for music and
> > most > > influencial. > > > >
> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Its odd, > > but it
> > does > > seem like a person is quite > > often > > hardest on the
> > music > > > > that immediately follows their > > favourite > >
> > period. After that > > its just > > a matter of keeping an > > open
> > mind and > > searching > > for the stuff that > > works.
> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Clint
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:46:01 -0000, Ben wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Or the artist was a scantily clad woman. Then you got
> > the > > > > > > flamboyant > > peacocks of both genders. Then MTV
> > took over > > the > > > > market and songs > > charted a lot lower
> > unless MTV > > played their > > > > videos and the end was > > near.
> > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It was a novelty and for a time I was interested
> > in > > the > > video > > > > > thing. > Looks were important, which
> > has > > always been > > part of > > the > > > equation, but > it
> > started to > > become to > > important. Seemed > > like if the > > >
> > artist couldn't > > > quite cut > > it, they had to employ > > a
> > bunch of > > > scantily > > clad women to > > grab > the attention. >
> > > > > >
> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > My > > > > favourite part of the video revolution > > was when they > > dug into > > > the > > > vaults and would play live bits > > from my > > old > > favourites. Seeing > > > these > guys/girls actually > > > > moving and > > performing was undeniably fun. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > >
> > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:07:01 -0000, Ben wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > They were good in the very early days before they
> > > > grew > > too > > > > > powerful, > figure 1981-1983 or so. Lots
> > of > > bands got > > airplay > > that > > > never radio air > time.
> > Granted, > > a lot of them > > because of > > their looks > > >
> > rather than any > > > talent but it was > > still nice to > > watch
> > in limited > > > doses. > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > howl > > dog wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > MTV in the early 80s changed the game
> > forever. > > > > > > > > > > for > > the > worse, in my opinion. > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Cfh > > > > To: > > > > > >
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, July > 15, >
> > > > > > > > > 2012 2:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song
> > of > > the > > year > > 1982 > > > > > second round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, I was considering saying the
> > same > > > > thing > > > > > regarding > > albums and > the 70's. Of
> > course > > there > > were good > > albums > > > in the 60's, > > but
> > singles > > were > more > > of the norm. > > > > > > > > > Personally
> > I can find > > singles from any > > decade that I > > don't like > >
> > > > > or have > > > heard enough due to > > radio overplay > > that
> > the experience has > > > > > > > been killed for > > > me. The only >
> > > difference these days > > is that I > > > rarely > > > > listen to
> > an actual > > > radio > > station. I might tune into > > > > >
> > something > > streaming from > > > > the CBC website, > but that is
> > quite > > > > > tailored to > > > > genre's. > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:52 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of
> > the > > year > > 1982 > > > > > second > > round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 70's was the decade for albums. They really
> > > > kicked > > in > > the > > > late > > 60's and by > the mid 80's
> > it > > was back to > > singles > > and > > > filler. > > Exceptions
> > of > > course. You > can > > keep going for > > a long > > > time on
> > those > > > > awful 70's songs > > and those were the > > > big hits.
> > > > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, > > "Dave" > > > > > > > >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 70's do have most of the greatest
> > albums > > ever > > made > > > > > > >
> > though.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > I think > > > > the late 70's is very > > solid for rock > > > > > > > music.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > Some of the > > one hit > > > > wonder > > songs from the > > early > > > 70's are good, but way too > > > > > > many wretchedly bad songs > > > > > > like "I > like Dreaming" > > > > "Undercover > > Angel" and > > "You're Having My > > Baby"
> > LOL
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, > > "Ben" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about the same age as Dave so these
> > early > > > > 80's > > years > > > were > > my > > > playbook for
> > years. When I > > > > went back > > later on, I > > > skipped > >
> > over the 70's > > > > > and > > went right to > > the 60's. Too > >
> > much > dull > > > > singer/songwriter > > and disco in > > > > > the
> > 70's. Still > > > > plenty > of good > > stuff > > in there anyway. >
> > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, > > > > "Cfh" > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, firmly believe that. I was 16 in
> > 1977, > > > > those > > mid > > > 70's > > were my > > > > playbook
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for years!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:43 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re:
> > Song of > > the > > > > year > > 1982 > > > second round > > > > pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think a lot has to do with a given
> > year, > > I > > was 16 > > > > when > > > these songs > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out, the height of teen angst and kind
> > of a > > > > > > soundtrack > > > for > > high > > > > school. > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > >
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, > > "Cfh" > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good on you Dave. I actually
> > struggled > > with > > this > > > > list, > but > > that's > > > > >
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing about different tastes and > >
> > opinions. > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >
> > From: Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:35 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re:
> > Song > > of > > the > > year > > > 1982 > > second > > > > > round
> > pt. > > > > > > > > > 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot to work with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Dexy's Midnight Runners - Come on
> > > > Eileen - > > > > great > > > song > > with a lot > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nostalgic feelings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Bonnie Raitt - Keep this Heart in
> > Mind > > - > > my > > > > favorite > > > song by her > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love that Green Light album
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Missing Persons - Destination
> > Unknown > > - > > very > > > > unique > > > group when > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Jam - Town Called Malice - some of
> > > > their > > best > > > > stuff > was > > later in > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > short career
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Judas Priest - You Got Another
> > Thing > > > > Coming - > > > > their > best song
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Linda Ronstadt - I Knew You When
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Asia - Only time Will Tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. REM - Gardening at Night
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. Genesis - Man on the Corner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > >
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, > > > > "Ben" > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please list your top ten favorites
> > in > > order > > of > > > > > > > preference. Show > > > > > > wraps
> > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > week. > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Joan Jett and Blackhearts Crimson
> > and Clover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Peter Gabriel Shock the Monkey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Dexy's Midnight Runners Come On Eileen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Go-Go's Vacation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 Cars Since You're Gone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Ozzy Osbourne Paranoid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 Alan Parsons Project Psychobabble
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 Genesis Man on the Corner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Juice Newton Love's Been a Little
> > Bit > > Hard on Me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10 Scorpions Blackout
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cheap Trick Lookin' Out for Number One
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 Bow Wow Wow I Want Candy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Asia Only Time Will Tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Billy Squier Emotions in Motion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 ABBA Cassandra
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 Bob and Doug McKenzie Twelve
> > Days of > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 Missing Persons Destination Unknown
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 Elvis Presley Elvis Medley
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19 Bonnie Raitt Keep This Heart in Mind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Judas Priest You've Got Another
> > Thing Coming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 Kate Bush Dreaming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22 Linda Ronstadt I Knew You When
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 23 ELO Rain is Falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 Motley Crue Piece of Your Action
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25 Jimmy Buffett It's Midnight and
> > I'm > > Not > > Famous Yet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 26 Doobie Brothers Here to Love You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 Jam A Town Called Malice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28 Paul Davis 65 Love Affair
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29 Frida I Know There's Something Going On
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 Johnny Van Zant Band Last of the
> > Wild Ones
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 Kansas Crossfire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 32 R.E.M. Gardening at Night
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33 Bellamy Brothers Redneck Girl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 34 Bryan Adams Lonely Nights
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35 Kim Carnes Does it Make You Remember
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