[Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the year 1982 second round pt. 7

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Sad but true.
Ben

--- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@...> wrote:
>
> Who made money? That's easy.
>  
> The Record Company made money. The folks selling the uniforms for
> both Disco and Punk rockers made money. The bars catering to the
> genre's made money, the magazines's made money...maybe even some of the
> band's made money, but in the industry that is not a given!
>  
> Clint
>  
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:11:07 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@...> wrote:
> There were clearly stylistic differences between punk and disco. Not
> sure who instigated the wars or who made all the money off it.
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem was with the labels. This is Punk, this is Disco, 10% >
> > lifestyle, 90% marketing ( in my jaded opinion ;)
> > >  
> > > Clint
> > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:54:34 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > Most people don;t look too hard to find new music so when the >
> > mainstream moves on, they simply stay rooted to what they know. We >
> > music fans look around and find more underground stuff. > > Can't say
> > I'm a fan of either disco or punk but they have their > > moments.
> > Same for rap. I heard about the rock/disco wars but wasn't a > > part
> > of it. I was just getting into music in 1978 when it was at its > >
> > peak and saw no reason not to like anything I wanted. Gimme Bee Gees,
> > > > Foreigner, Loretta Lynn, Bob Seger, Abba, it was all just music
> > to me. > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That's my take on it. As we've mentioned, those formative years
> > > > leave > some deep impressions. When the status quo starts to
> > change > > it screws > with your comfort zone. >  
> > > > > I can go to any year and find good music, the mainstream is
> > weaker > > in > some years than others for me but there is always
> > something that > > I can > be pleasantly surprised with. > I
> > think trends can be > > disruptive and lead to some bad vibes. Disco
> > > was a dirty word when > > it all came out. Ya Saturday Night Fever
> > was a > monster hit, but the > > backlash against the genre was
> > substantial. Punk > was not > > universally accepted as the next
> > step, which is exactly what > the > > Punks loved about it. > Looking
> > back I can find merit in both, > > although I still have > misgivings
> > about both ;)
> > > > >  
> > > > > Clint
> > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:59:26 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > Maybe. We pass the golden period and have it in for whatever >
> > > replaced > it. There was good music out there in the 90's which is
> > > > what my matchup > show is about. Not sure anyone here is still
> > voting > > on that one though. > And at the time there was always
> > something to > > like. For me it was > Suzanne Vega, REM, Georgia
> > Satellites, > > Smithereens and a bunch of other > including some of
> > the pure pop > > like Bangles and Belinda Carlisle. > > Ben
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh"
> > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if you talk to some person who was 16 in 1987, I'm sure
> > > > that's > > > their high water mark for music and most
> > influencial. > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Its odd, but it does seem like a person is quite often
> > hardest > > on > > the > music that immediately follows their
> > favourite period. > > After > > that its > just a matter of keeping
> > an open mind and > > searching for > > the stuff that > works. >
> > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:46:01 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > Or the artist was a scantily clad woman. Then you got the >
> > > > > flamboyant > peacocks of both genders. Then MTV took over the
> > market > > > > and songs > charted a lot lower unless MTV played
> > their videos > > and > > the end was near. > > Ben
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" > >
> > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It was a novelty and for a time I was interested in the
> > > > video > > > > thing. > Looks were important, which has always
> > been > > part of the > > > > equation, but > it started to become to
> > > > important. Seemed like if > > the > > artist couldn't > quite cut
> > it, > > they had to employ a bunch of > > > > scantily clad women to
> > grab > > > the attention. > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > > My favourite part of the video revolution was when they
> > dug > > > > into > > the > vaults and would play live bits from my
> > old > > > > favourites. Seeing > > these > guys/girls actually moving
> > and > > > > performing was undeniably fun. > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:07:01 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > They were good in the very early days before they grew
> > too > > > > > > powerful, > figure 1981-1983 or so. Lots of bands got
> > airplay > > that > > > > never radio air > time. Granted, a lot of
> > them because > > of their > > looks > > rather than any > talent but
> > it was still nice > > to watch in > > limited > > doses. > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, howl dog
> > > > > > <howldogg@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > MTV in the early 80s changed the game forever. > >
> > > > > > for > > the > > worse, in my opinion. > > > > > > > > >
> > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Cfh <cfhiebert@>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com > Sent: >
> > > Sunday, > > July > > 15, > > 2012 2:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the
> > > > year > > 1982 > > > > second round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, I was considering saying the same
> > thing > > > > > > regarding > > albums and > the 70's. Of course
> > there were > > good albums > > > > in the 60's, > > but singles were
> > > more of the > > norm. > > > > > > > > Personally I can find singles
> > from any decade > > that I don't like > > > > > > or have > heard
> > enough due to radio > > overplay that the experience > > has > > > >
> > been killed for > me. > > The only difference these days is > > that
> > I > > rarely > > listen to > > an actual > radio station. I might > >
> > tune into > > something > > > > streaming from the CBC website, > but
> > > > that is quite > > tailored > > to > > genre's. > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:52 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the
> > year > > 1982 > > > > second > > round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > 70's was the decade for albums. They really
> > kicked in > > the > > > > late > > 60's and by > the mid 80's it was
> > back to > > singles and > > > > filler. > > Exceptions of course. You
> > > can keep > > going for a long > > > > time on those > > awful 70's
> > songs and those > > were the > big hits. > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Dave" > > > > > > > > <majormet1966@> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The 70's do have most of the greatest albums ever
> > > > made > > > > though.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  >
> > > I think > > the late > > 70's is very solid for > > rock > >
> > music.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  Some > > of the > >
> > one hit wonder > > songs > > from the early > > 70's are > > good,
> > but way too > > many wretchedly bad > > songs > > like "I > > > >
> > like Dreaming" "Undercover > > Angel" and > > "You're Having My Baby"
> > > > LOL
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Ben" > > > > <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm about the same age as Dave so these early
> > 80's > > > > years > > were > > my > > > playbook for years. When I
> > went back > > > > later on, I > > skipped > > over the 70's > > > and
> > went right to > > the > > 60's. Too much > > dull > >
> > singer/songwriter and disco in > > > > > the > > 70's. Still plenty >
> > > of good > > stuff in there anyway. > > > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Cfh" > > > > > > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, firmly believe that. I was 16 in 1977,
> > those > > mid > > > > 70's > > were my > > > > playbook
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for years!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:43 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of
> > the > > year > > 1982 > > > > second round > > > > pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think a lot has to do with a given year, I
> > was > > 16 > > when > > > > these songs > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > out, the height of teen angst and kind of a >
> > > > > soundtrack > > for > > high > > > > school. > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "Cfh" > > > > > > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good on you Dave. I actually struggled with
> > > > this > > list, > > but > > that's > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing about different tastes and opinions.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:35 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of
> > the > > > > year > > 1982 > > second > > > > > round pt. > > > > > >
> > > 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot to work with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Dexy's Midnight Runners - Come on Eileen
> > - > > great > > > > song > > with a lot > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nostalgic feelings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Bonnie Raitt - Keep this Heart in Mind -
> > my > > > > favorite > > > > song by her > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love that Green Light album
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Missing Persons - Destination Unknown -
> > very > > > > unique > > > > group when > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Jam - Town Called Malice - some of their
> > > > best > > stuff > > was > > later in > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > short career
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Judas Priest - You Got Another Thing
> > Coming > > - > > their > > best song
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Linda Ronstadt - I Knew You When
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Asia - Only time Will Tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. REM - Gardening at Night
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. Genesis - Man on the Corner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, > > "Ben" > > > > > >
> > <dawnstar@> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please list your top ten favorites in
> > order > > of > > > > > > preference. Show > > > > > > wraps in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > week. > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Joan Jett and Blackhearts Crimson and Clover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Peter Gabriel Shock the Monkey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Dexy's Midnight Runners Come On Eileen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Go-Go's Vacation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 Cars Since You're Gone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Ozzy Osbourne Paranoid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 Alan Parsons Project Psychobabble
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 Genesis Man on the Corner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Juice Newton Love's Been a Little Bit
> > Hard on Me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10 Scorpions Blackout
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cheap Trick Lookin' Out for Number One
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 Bow Wow Wow I Want Candy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Asia Only Time Will Tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Billy Squier Emotions in Motion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 ABBA Cassandra
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 Bob and Doug McKenzie Twelve Days of Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 Missing Persons Destination Unknown
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 Elvis Presley Elvis Medley
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19 Bonnie Raitt Keep This Heart in Mind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Judas Priest You've Got Another Thing Coming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 Kate Bush Dreaming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22 Linda Ronstadt I Knew You When
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 23 ELO Rain is Falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 Motley Crue Piece of Your Action
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25 Jimmy Buffett It's Midnight and I'm
> > Not Famous Yet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 26 Doobie Brothers Here to Love You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 Jam A Town Called Malice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28 Paul Davis 65 Love Affair
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29 Frida I Know There's Something Going On
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 Johnny Van Zant Band Last of the Wild Ones
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 Kansas Crossfire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 32 R.E.M. Gardening at Night
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33 Bellamy Brothers Redneck Girl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 34 Bryan Adams Lonely Nights
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35 Kim Carnes Does it Make You Remember
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