[Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the year 1982 second round pt. 7

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There were clearly stylistic differences between punk and disco. Not sure who instigated the wars or who made all the money off it.
Ben

--- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@...> wrote:
>
> The problem was with the labels. This is Punk, this is Disco, 10%
> lifestyle, 90% marketing ( in my jaded opinion ;)
>  
> Clint
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:54:34 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@...> wrote:
> Most people don;t look too hard to find new music so when the
> mainstream moves on, they simply stay rooted to what they know. We
> music fans look around and find more underground stuff.
> > Can't say I'm a fan of either disco or punk but they have their
> > moments. Same for rap. I heard about the rock/disco wars but wasn't a
> > part of it. I was just getting into music in 1978 when it was at its
> > peak and saw no reason not to like anything I wanted. Gimme Bee Gees,
> > Foreigner, Loretta Lynn, Bob Seger, Abba, it was all just music to me.
> > Ben
> >
> > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's my take on it. As we've mentioned, those formative years
> > leave > some deep impressions. When the status quo starts to change
> > it screws > with your comfort zone. >  
> > > I can go to any year and find good music, the mainstream is weaker
> > in > some years than others for me but there is always something that
> > I can > be pleasantly surprised with. > I think trends can be
> > disruptive and lead to some bad vibes. Disco > was a dirty word when
> > it all came out. Ya Saturday Night Fever was a > monster hit, but the
> > backlash against the genre was substantial. Punk > was not
> > universally accepted as the next step, which is exactly what > the
> > Punks loved about it. > Looking back I can find merit in both,
> > although I still have > misgivings about both ;)
> > >  
> > > Clint
> > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:59:26 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > Maybe. We pass the golden period and have it in for whatever
> > replaced > it. There was good music out there in the 90's which is
> > what my matchup > show is about. Not sure anyone here is still voting
> > on that one though. > And at the time there was always something to
> > like. For me it was > Suzanne Vega, REM, Georgia Satellites,
> > Smithereens and a bunch of other > including some of the pure pop
> > like Bangles and Belinda Carlisle. > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh" <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > But if you talk to some person who was 16 in 1987, I'm sure
> > that's > > > their high water mark for music and most influencial. >
> >  
> > > > > Its odd, but it does seem like a person is quite often hardest
> > on > > the > music that immediately follows their favourite period.
> > After > > that its > just a matter of keeping an open mind and
> > searching for > > the stuff that > works. >  
> > > > > Clint
> > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:46:01 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > Or the artist was a scantily clad woman. Then you got the > >
> > flamboyant > peacocks of both genders. Then MTV took over the market
> > > > and songs > charted a lot lower unless MTV played their videos
> > and > > the end was near. > > Ben
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh"
> > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It was a novelty and for a time I was interested in the
> > video > > > > thing. > Looks were important, which has always been
> > part of the > > > > equation, but > it started to become to
> > important. Seemed like if > > the > > artist couldn't > quite cut it,
> > they had to employ a bunch of > > > > scantily clad women to grab >
> > the attention. > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > My favourite part of the video revolution was when they dug
> > > > into > > the > vaults and would play live bits from my old > >
> > favourites. Seeing > > these > guys/girls actually moving and > >
> > performing was undeniably fun. > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:07:01 -0000, Ben <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > They were good in the very early days before they grew too
> > > > > > powerful, > figure 1981-1983 or so. Lots of bands got airplay
> > that > > > > never radio air > time. Granted, a lot of them because
> > of their > > looks > > rather than any > talent but it was still nice
> > to watch in > > limited > > doses. > > Ben
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, howl dog > >
> > <howldogg@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > MTV in the early 80s changed the game forever. > > > >
> > for > > the > > worse, in my opinion. > > > > > > >
> > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: Cfh <cfhiebert@>
> > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com > Sent:
> > Sunday, > > July > > 15, > > 2012 2:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the
> > year > > 1982 > > > > second round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > Interesting, I was considering saying the same thing
> > > > > > regarding > > albums and > the 70's. Of course there were
> > good albums > > > > in the 60's, > > but singles were > more of the
> > norm. > > > > > > > > Personally I can find singles from any decade
> > that I don't like > > > > > > or have > heard enough due to radio
> > overplay that the experience > > has > > > > been killed for > me.
> > The only difference these days is > > that I > > rarely > > listen to
> > an actual > radio station. I might > > tune into > > something > >
> > streaming from the CBC website, > but > > that is quite > > tailored
> > to > > genre's. > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:52 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the year
> > 1982 > > > > second > > round pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > 70's was the decade for albums. They really kicked in
> > the > > > > late > > 60's and by > the mid 80's it was back to
> > singles and > > > > filler. > > Exceptions of course. You > can keep
> > going for a long > > > > time on those > > awful 70's songs and those
> > were the > big hits. > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" >
> > > > > > > <majormet1966@> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The 70's do have most of the greatest albums ever
> > made > > > > though.ÃÆ'‚  > > I think > > the late
> > 70's is very solid for > > rock > > music.ÃÆ'‚  Some
> > of the > > one hit wonder > > songs > > from the early > > 70's are
> > good, but way too > > many wretchedly bad > > songs > > like "I > >
> > like Dreaming" "Undercover > > Angel" and > > "You're Having My Baby"
> > LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" >
> > > <dawnstar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm about the same age as Dave so these early 80's
> > > > years > > were > > my > > > playbook for years. When I went back
> > > > later on, I > > skipped > > over the 70's > > > and went right to
> > the > > 60's. Too much > > dull > > singer/songwriter and disco in >
> > > > the > > 70's. Still plenty > > of good > > stuff in there anyway.
> > > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com, "Cfh"
> > > > > > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, firmly believe that. I was 16 in 1977, those
> > mid > > > > 70's > > were my > > > > playbook
> > > > > > > > > > > > for years!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:43 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the
> > year > > 1982 > > > > second round > > > > pt. 7
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think a lot has to do with a given year, I was
> > 16 > > when > > > > these songs > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > out, the height of teen angst and kind of a > >
> > soundtrack > > for > > high > > > > school. > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Cfh" > > > > > > <cfhiebert@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Good on you Dave. I actually struggled with
> > this > > list, > > but > > that's > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thing about different tastes and opinions. > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:35 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Classic_Rock_Forever] Re: Song of the
> > > > year > > 1982 > > second > > > > > round pt. > > > > > > > 7
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot to work with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Dexy's Midnight Runners - Come on Eileen -
> > great > > > > song > > with a lot > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nostalgic feelings
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Bonnie Raitt - Keep this Heart in Mind - my
> > > > favorite > > > > song by her > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > love that Green Light album
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Missing Persons - Destination Unknown - very
> > > > unique > > > > group when > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Jam - Town Called Malice - some of their
> > best > > stuff > > was > > later in > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > short career
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Judas Priest - You Got Another Thing Coming
> > - > > their > > best song
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Linda Ronstadt - I Knew You When
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Bow Wow Wow - I Want Candy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Asia - Only time Will Tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. REM - Gardening at Night
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. Genesis - Man on the Corner
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Classic_Rock_Forever@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Ben" > > > > > > <dawnstar@> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please list your top ten favorites in order
> > of > > > > > > preference. Show > > > > > > wraps in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > week. > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Joan Jett and Blackhearts Crimson and Clover
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Peter Gabriel Shock the Monkey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Dexy's Midnight Runners Come On Eileen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 Go-Go's Vacation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 Cars Since You're Gone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 Ozzy Osbourne Paranoid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 Alan Parsons Project Psychobabble
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 Genesis Man on the Corner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Juice Newton Love's Been a Little Bit Hard on Me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10 Scorpions Blackout
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cheap Trick Lookin' Out for Number One
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12 Bow Wow Wow I Want Candy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Asia Only Time Will Tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Billy Squier Emotions in Motion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 ABBA Cassandra
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 Bob and Doug McKenzie Twelve Days of Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 Missing Persons Destination Unknown
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 Elvis Presley Elvis Medley
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19 Bonnie Raitt Keep This Heart in Mind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Judas Priest You've Got Another Thing Coming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 Kate Bush Dreaming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22 Linda Ronstadt I Knew You When
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 23 ELO Rain is Falling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 Motley Crue Piece of Your Action
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25 Jimmy Buffett It's Midnight and I'm Not Famous Yet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 26 Doobie Brothers Here to Love You
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 Jam A Town Called Malice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28 Paul Davis 65 Love Affair
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29 Frida I Know There's Something Going On
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 Johnny Van Zant Band Last of the Wild Ones
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 Kansas Crossfire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 32 R.E.M. Gardening at Night
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33 Bellamy Brothers Redneck Girl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 34 Bryan Adams Lonely Nights
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35 Kim Carnes Does it Make You Remember
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